Cipha Sounds hangs out with Brooklyn legends Smif-N-Wessun — Tek-N-Steele, aka the Cocoa Brovaz — for a real conversation about old New York, the culture, and staying true after 30 years in the game.

They get into the Decepticons and growing up between Brownsville and Bed-Stuy, Sunday rituals and the legendary Tunnel nightclub, how gentrification changed Brooklyn, why the Knicks run brought that old New York energy roaring back, and what it really means to say "I am hip-hop." Plus stoop sets, outfit architecture, and always showing up for your friends.

Catch Smif-N-Wessun at City Winery (Pier 17) August 31st, and at the Smif-N-Wessun Day block party in September.