For over 35 years, Ice Cube has been an independent artist—from Ruthless Records to a lengthy tenure at Priority Records—to running his own Lench Mob imprint. In a new conversation with Bill Maher, Cube explains why he has avoided major labels despite his success.

At 17:00 in The Club Random Podcast, Cube and Bill reconnect with some things to smoke and drink and plenty to discuss. At this point in the interview, the two men discuss language and terminology set to divide communities. Moving the talking point to music, Cube asks, “Who benefits and profits off of our bickering and our division? It’s like, follow the money.” As Bill Maher asks for specifics, Cube locks in on the prison complex, especially privatized prisons. “I don’t know they names, Bill, but if you follow the money and you go high enough, you’ll start to see [things]. Okay, let’s take Rap music. The same people who own the labels own the prisons.”

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